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    Kevin and the Anti-trix

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    • Offbeatcat
      Offbeatcat @Tactical Ochoa last edited by

      @tactical-ochoa well, considering this is probably locked in, i'd like to ask: If you were forced to write the plot of season 3 using this version of kevin, how would you work with this concept? how would you try to salvage it, the concept of kevin with his anti-trix?

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      • Tactical Ochoa
        Tactical Ochoa @Offbeatcat last edited by Tactical Ochoa

        @offbeatcat I don't really know. Again, considering my understanding of Kevin as a character and villain, this wouldn't be a direction that I would go for Kevin. If anything, if I was in that position and Cartoon Network or Man of Action or whoever told me that I have to write Kevin with his own Omnitrix, I say that it's very likely that I would fight back. That I would go up to them and say, "No, this goes against Kevin as a character and villain. This is NOT a direction that we need to go for Kevin. You want me to write Kevin into this show, I'm keeping him the way that he always has been throughout the franchise. I am not going to remove and replace something that fundamentally defined Kevin as a character with something else that doesn't suit and benefit Kevin and you really just want to implement just to sell more merchandise. We can work something out here but this is not a good direction to go for Kevin." Sure, you can chalk this up to my own personal bias (not like folks haven't done that plenty of times before), but overall, I value my standards of quality and the consumers too much to let corporations like Cartoon Network push me around and force me to do things that I don't want to do and that I know it won't benefit the product and its quality overall; especially in the long run.

        That goes for just making a Ben 10 show in general. If I was in a position where Cartoon Network wants me to make a Ben 10 show, it certainly wouldn't be this reboot show. If Cartoon Network says otherwise, I'm fighting back because again, I value my standards of quality and pro-consumerism too much to back down and comply.

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        • Offbeatcat
          Offbeatcat last edited by

          https://ben10.fandom.com/wiki/AntiTrix
          Well, we got some info on the anti-trix. seems that kevin built this thing, but only because someone put it in his mind, meaning he's a pawn. probably vilgax's. he tampered with the initial design in his own ways, meaning he's something of a mechanic. This means his aliens are stronger then normal, but more mentally unstable. he can't time out, meaning he can last out a fight against ben until he times out.

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          • Ungrateful-Wolf
            Ungrateful-Wolf @Offbeatcat last edited by

            @offbeatcat Yep, Kevin built that thing after receiving the blueprints in a dream. The current design is the one he drew after getting the plans through his mind, but he knew enough about technology to modify the way the aliens work and give them "upgrades", making them close to Albedo's OV ultimates.
            Also, if you didn't watch the episode yet, the reason why he's after Ben is because... Ben and Kevin are actually classmates, and Kevin has been bullying Ben during fourth grade whenever he had the occasion. In class, during lunch, study hour or even at the bathroom (Ben is scared of public bathrooms because of Kevin).
            Also, check out this fun callback
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            (he even got the shoes!)

            Sometimes, being alone is the right way to find someone else

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            • Tactical Ochoa
              Tactical Ochoa @Offbeatcat last edited by

              @offbeatcat Really? You're telling me that some 11 year old kid somehow managed to make a replica of an alien watch? Where did Kevin even get all of the parts and DNA samples to make it? Christ, I thought the autistic kid in the 2018 Predator film was absurd.

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                NEVERAGAIN @Tactical Ochoa last edited by

                @tactical-ochoa I thought you where autistic too, and still you bully me (another person thats autistic) and calling another autist for absurd? You are not really autistic, are you?

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                • Offbeatcat
                  Offbeatcat @NEVERAGAIN last edited by

                  @mortie-10 this has nothing to do with you.

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                  • Offbeatcat
                    Offbeatcat last edited by

                    Calling it now: Kevin's aliens are all the aliens of this season, plus gax.

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                    • Tactical Ochoa
                      Tactical Ochoa @NEVERAGAIN last edited by

                      @mortie-10 I'm bullying you? Really? That's what you're going with here? Don't even.

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                      • Ungrateful-Wolf
                        Ungrateful-Wolf last edited by Ungrateful-Wolf

                        Oooooooh, Ben vs Gax would be amazing! Not only do we have a "pseudo-Vilgax" that way, but Ben would be fighting his favorite 11th alien!

                        Also, I THINK there's a possible explanation as to how Kevin acquired the samples, though I'll wait for the show to confirm it or prove me wrong:

                        As we saw in Innervasion, when Ben put a piece of Fulmini armor in a pod, it sampled it and allowed him to become Shock Rock. All he needs was a piece of the alien to turn into said alien's species.
                        This means that all Kevin has to do, is to look for alien samples on the planet. And considering Ben left QUITE the damage and the bits here and there during his combats, he must've left a fair amount of DNA samples roaming around. Diamondhead, Wildvine, Stinkfly... They all left their marks here and there around the country using their powers. It's possible that Kevin followed Ben's progress around the country and sampled his aliens from Ben's own roster. All I wonder is which ones he didn't sample, and which ones he did beside Cannonbolt (for Wreckingbolt)

                        Sometimes, being alone is the right way to find someone else

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                        • Offbeatcat
                          Offbeatcat @Ungrateful-Wolf last edited by

                          @ungrateful-wolf While i doubt they'd explain that, it would lend a bit more logic to how kevin built his anti-trix. although we still have the massive hoop of HOW THE FUCK DID HE GET SOME OF THE ALIEN MATERIALS NEEDED TO BUILD ONE OF THESE

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                          • Tactical Ochoa
                            Tactical Ochoa @Offbeatcat last edited by

                            @offbeatcat Part of me is thinking of asking Man of Action themselves on Twitter.

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                            • Offbeatcat
                              Offbeatcat @Tactical Ochoa last edited by

                              @tactical-ochoa go ahead. i'd love to hear what bullshit they make up on the spot.

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                              • Ungrateful-Wolf
                                Ungrateful-Wolf @Offbeatcat last edited by

                                @offbeatcat Vilgax managed to create a spaceship out of rusty cars from an abandoned car factory (as well as provide Zombozo with the right tech to mass hypnotize). Animo also managed to apply Omnitrix DNA samples to himself in "Animorphosis" thanks to his knowledge in genetics and technology, Kevin doesn't surprise me that much in his way of pulling stuff of nowhere.
                                Plus, as we all know, Kevin is famous for stealing. I think it'd be in-character for him to take that tech away if he finds it, he has a talent for taking stuff that doesn't belong to him, or acquiring it illegally (even though he's still just a kid and pretty harmless aside from being a bully).
                                Whatever tech Kevin needs, it apparently wouldn't be that hard to acquire it on Earth as long as he has the right knowledge to make use of it. Aliens knew how to make basic Earth tech into war machines, Kevin could do something similar with the blueprints (wonder WHY those were sent to him. What is Kevin in this universe beside Ben's school bully?)

                                Sometimes, being alone is the right way to find someone else

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                                • Ungrateful-Wolf
                                  Ungrateful-Wolf @Offbeatcat last edited by Ungrateful-Wolf

                                  Uhhhhh, guys, maybe we should wait until they explain it in the show proper instead? Asking for answers now would maaaaaaaaybe be spoiling us if they have something in mind. For example, the Omni-Enhancements weren't really explained until Glitch said they were a side-effect of the Fulmini DNA absorbing the Omnitrix's excessive charge.
                                  Plus, I don't think fans are usually supposed to get answers from show writers right away like that... It usually takes some more time.

                                  Sometimes, being alone is the right way to find someone else

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                                  • Offbeatcat
                                    Offbeatcat @Ungrateful-Wolf last edited by

                                    @ungrateful-wolf fair point. i just hope they actually do explain it.

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                                    • Tactical Ochoa
                                      Tactical Ochoa last edited by

                                      I'm giving it a try anyways.

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                                      • Offbeatcat
                                        Offbeatcat @Tactical Ochoa last edited by

                                        @tactical-ochoa best of luck.

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                                            VaL @Offbeatcat last edited by

                                            @offbeatcat it's fan art

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