Addressing the Ben 10 Reboot Part 2
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@Ryan-Ivanov You made some good points. In regards to Gwen being half anodite, I wouldn't say that I was being a hypocrite (although of course I wouldn't say that). It was more so that I missed mentioning another major aspect about the Ben 10 series back then and that was the whole mystical aspect in regards to the use of spells and magic, which is where characters such as Gwen, Charmcaster, Hex, etc come in. It helps give greater variety and complexity to the Ben 10 universe, further adding in to the mystery and fantasy for the world at which the series is built around.
Also, just because it's a science fiction show doesn't mean that it has to be completely scientifically inaccurate. Some aspects about the series should and does have to be accurate to the real world, or at least have to make sense, in order to prevent viewers from having a suspension of disbelief. That was another thing about the Ben 10 series, most especially the Original Series, that I believe I haven't actually touched upon as well where there is a strong sense of realism with the world of Ben 10 as well. I mentioned before how Omniverse had an episode where Ben tells his group to hold their breaths before they go into space and how that's a terrible idea because of how the lack of pressure in space and the amount of pressure inside their lungs could lead to their lungs getting ruptured and torn apart if they keep all that oxygen inside them. Titan A.E. was a science fiction animated film and they got that aspect right. It can be off setting for at least some if viewers watching Omniverse are aware of this very scientific fact. So yeah, Anodites not having DNA is illogical; it is something that doesn't make sense at all and thus this damaged the Ben 10 series because it causes a suspension of disbelief. It could even be arguable that Anodites aren't even a species at all since that a species needs DNA in order to, well be a species. DNA is needed to transmit across generations. To allow evolution and variation to happen. To ensure the survival of said species. To allow for the creation of future generations and offsprings. Etc etc etc. I'm not a scientist but I can easily look the information up online. So again yes, it very much is illogical for Anodites to not have DNA, for Gwen to be half Anodite, and even for Ben to remain fully human even though his biological grandmother is an Anodite. It doesn't make sense and, as a result, it had a significantly negative impact on the Ben 10 series when Alien Force made that very retcon (yes, Gwen being half Anodite is actually a retcon).
https://www.quora.com/Why-do-all-living-creatures-have-DNA
(I believe this link here should be sufficient enough to further explain my point. There are certainly many other sources that further explains this.)I already explained a while back before as to why I prefer for Gwen to be a fully human sorceress and not half alien so I won't go through that again. It's not like we're going to be seeing Gwen as an Anodite again since that Joe Kelly did mention that MOA prefers for Gwen to be a fully human sorceress and they are the Executive Producers of the Ben 10 reboot.
As for the whole cousin romance aspect with Ben and Gwen, I have an entire page discussing that and I also have pages and posts discussing the problems of Kevin being a hero character and being paired up with Gwen and why I find that to not make sense at all so I don't need to go over it again. It's fine if you prefer Gwen being paired with Kevin because that's your opinion and I respect that. I just don't find it ideal and suitable for the series. Ben and Gwen have the strongest connection and relationship in the Ben 10 series. Even if they are cousins, I still find that they would be the best choice for a romantic couple in the series. It just overall makes the most amount of sense that way. Still, you can think whatever you want as well.
Oh and also, I almost forgot, opinions and views can change over time. I no longer see the Ben 10 series as just a Sci-Fi show. I see the mystical and realism elements in the show as well.
Again, you made some really good points so thanks for posting on here.
@Tactical-Ochoa So have you given up on trying to change or even cancel future cartoonish BS that CN will do to ben 10?You don't seem so enthusiastic to change things now.But that's just how i see it, I maybe wrong.
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@KorseBLI-ND Haha i get what you are talking about!Don't get me wrong, i like the idea of Bwen, but i think it will change the show too much to the point it will not be a ben 10 series, but it will be a different show by itself, keeping only the idea of the watch the same.There is a difference between a reboot and a new series, and ''Bwen'' or ''Ken and ben 10.000'' will do just that.But as i said, i like the idea and know what you mean
@Ryan-Ivanov ah yeah also to me bwen would of been better than the damn gwevin pairing because to me it looks like it is going to be a abusive relationship plus also I kinda like the whole forbidden fruit idea for the bwen pairing plus I watched rocky horror picture show when I was a kid so that is one of the reasons my mind is more open minded on stuff
Keep running
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@Ryan-Ivanov ah yeah also to me bwen would of been better than the damn gwevin pairing because to me it looks like it is going to be a abusive relationship plus also I kinda like the whole forbidden fruit idea for the bwen pairing plus I watched rocky horror picture show when I was a kid so that is one of the reasons my mind is more open minded on stuff
@KorseBLI-ND I get your point, but the ''forbidden fruit'' idea won't be possible, CN obviously wants less violence and wants to give a proper attitude towards children, so being more than friends when they are still fcousins will be way out of a ''go go'' for CN.They would never show such attitude towards characters in their shows.So unless it is on adult swim or netflix, we won't see such a thing soon.Bwen can happen on CN, only if they are not cousins by plot.
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@Tactical-Ochoa So have you given up on trying to change or even cancel future cartoonish BS that CN will do to ben 10?You don't seem so enthusiastic to change things now.But that's just how i see it, I maybe wrong.
@Ryan-Ivanov No. At the very least just further open up awareness to others about Cartoon Network and their BS. I stopped trying to contact Cartoon Network for a while because they wouldn't respond back and it had reached the point where the Ben 10 reboot is happening regardless. I'll try to go back and make attempts to contact Man of Action and Cartoon Network soon. Either way, I haven't given up yet.
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@Ryan-Ivanov No. At the very least just further open up awareness to others about Cartoon Network and their BS. I stopped trying to contact Cartoon Network for a while because they wouldn't respond back and it had reached the point where the Ben 10 reboot is happening regardless. I'll try to go back and make attempts to contact Man of Action and Cartoon Network soon. Either way, I haven't given up yet.
@Tactical-Ochoa If you need any help, tell me.We can start a pettition (even if their are already ones) or at least something that will make a change.I really want this awesome show to not go downhill and to be as awesome as it could.Again, inform me if you need any help.
We live to work, we don't work to live, let's change that...
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@Tactical-Ochoa If you need any help, tell me.We can start a pettition (even if their are already ones) or at least something that will make a change.I really want this awesome show to not go downhill and to be as awesome as it could.Again, inform me if you need any help.
@Ryan-Ivanov Ok, I'll let you know if I need anything. Thanks.
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@KorseBLI-ND I get your point, but the ''forbidden fruit'' idea won't be possible, CN obviously wants less violence and wants to give a proper attitude towards children, so being more than friends when they are still fcousins will be way out of a ''go go'' for CN.They would never show such attitude towards characters in their shows.So unless it is on adult swim or netflix, we won't see such a thing soon.Bwen can happen on CN, only if they are not cousins by plot.
@Ryan-Ivanov I know but with the original idea for the show ben and gwen were not suppose to be cousins also with me I don't care what society thinks because to me they are sheep
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It kinda reminds me of this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBRiYxeIgT4 in the sense that its showcasing bens aliens. I hope we get some for bens other aliens.
@Omni-Triforcer said in Addressing the Ben 10 Reboot Part 2:
It kinda reminds me of this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBRiYxeIgT4 in the sense that its showcasing bens aliens. I hope we get some for bens other aliens.
@Omni-Triforcer
We probaly get more very very soon. next month on 1 Oktober is the
"Global Premiere" So maybe we can see one of them every day or every week
The 5th series are very close -
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To the ones who really dislike the reboot: Have you ever stopped to think that there are people who like the reboot (like me) and the other animated series of the channel? I don't think Cartoon Network will care about petitions or something like that, because there are people who really like and watch what they do. Like my younger brother, who unfortunately loves watching Teen Titans Go, Uncle Grandpa and Clarence. I don't like these series but I'll not try to ruin the fun of the ones who like it. What I am trying to say is that you have to try to respect opinions instead of spreading negative feelings.
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with me goodvibes the teen titans go sucked I liked the original series better because of the darker stuff
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To the ones who really dislike the reboot: Have you ever stopped to think that there are people who like the reboot (like me) and the other animated series of the channel? I don't think Cartoon Network will care about petitions or something like that, because there are people who really like and watch what they do. Like my younger brother, who unfortunately loves watching Teen Titans Go, Uncle Grandpa and Clarence. I don't like these series but I'll not try to ruin the fun of the ones who like it. What I am trying to say is that you have to try to respect opinions instead of spreading negative feelings.
@GoodVibes1999 hi im new here but i totally agree with you
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To the ones who really dislike the reboot: Have you ever stopped to think that there are people who like the reboot (like me) and the other animated series of the channel? I don't think Cartoon Network will care about petitions or something like that, because there are people who really like and watch what they do. Like my younger brother, who unfortunately loves watching Teen Titans Go, Uncle Grandpa and Clarence. I don't like these series but I'll not try to ruin the fun of the ones who like it. What I am trying to say is that you have to try to respect opinions instead of spreading negative feelings.
@GoodVibes1999 I don't care because this is what I and others want to do.
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@GoodVibes1999 I don't care because this is what I and others want to do.
@Tactical-Ochoa so you are not taking the fact that there are people who actually want to see the reboot into account???
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New Clip!!! Sillouettes Confirmed!
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10154504881399508&id=105310924507&__tn__=*s@Omni-Triforcer said in Addressing the Ben 10 Reboot Part 2:
New Clip!!! Sillouettes Confirmed!
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10154504881399508&id=105310924507&__tn__=*sWow. Someone on Reddit pointed this out. When Ben cycles through his aliens, his fingers don't even move and the Omnitrix dial doesn't even actually turn.
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@Omni-Triforcer said in Addressing the Ben 10 Reboot Part 2:
New Clip!!! Sillouettes Confirmed!
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10154504881399508&id=105310924507&__tn__=*sWow. Someone on Reddit pointed this out. When Ben cycles through his aliens, his fingers don't even move and the Omnitrix dial doesn't even actually turn.
@Tactical-Ochoa that is really bad man they must be getting really cheap when hiring people
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@Tactical-Ochoa so you are not taking the fact that there are people who actually want to see the reboot into account???
@VJ-Philogene Oh I'm aware that some people do want to see the Ben 10 reboot but, especially considering the majority of the overall responses to the reboot are negative, I'm not going to focus on that. Even if there are those that do like shows such as TTG!, the PPG reboot, Clarence, Uncle Grandpa, the upcoming Ben 10 reboot, etc, even they deserve better shows than these ones. So no, I'm not focusing on that with my arguments.
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it could be that the omnitrix works differently now. im not saying thats the case but it could be a possibility
@Tactical-Ochoa Oh yeah I noticed that
@VJ-Philogene No I don't think the watch has a new function I think they are just to lazy,
look at the new backgrounds from this Ben 10 Reboot they are not good to
but for the rest the show looks pretty good and I'm looking forward to it but Ben still
looks like he's 5 and Gwen I'm ok with Gwen she looks cute in my opinion but
it is a pity that his fingers do not move on the Omnitrix, I hope they will fix it
later in the show and also the backgrounds -
@VJ-Philogene Oh I'm aware that some people do want to see the Ben 10 reboot but, especially considering the majority of the overall responses to the reboot are negative, I'm not going to focus on that. Even if there are those that do like shows such as TTG!, the PPG reboot, Clarence, Uncle Grandpa, the upcoming Ben 10 reboot, etc, even they deserve better shows than these ones. So no, I'm not focusing on that with my arguments.
@Tactical-Ochoa i get what you mean i personally hate uncle grandpa ,clarence , and teen titans go i havent really seen much of PPG for me to judge it. Something i have always wanted cartoon network to do was like have 2 channels one for they younger audience from 6 to 12 and one for teenagers and adults kinda like how nick had nickalodeon and nick jr something like that without the kindergarten shows and they could be on different channels. So they would probably have a ben10 for the younger audience(11 min episodes) and one for the older audience(22 min episodes) but thats just me
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