Addressing the Ben 10 Reboot
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At least the creators of ben 10 wanted them to make the reboot and are involved with it.
10 Years Of Hero Time!!!!
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@Omni-Triforcer That could be true but is this the show that Man of Action wanted to make for Ben 10? Is Cartoon Network allowing Man of Action to make this next Ben 10 show their way? I pretty much doubt it. You can have some of the best writers, artists, producers, animators, etc and if you don't have at least some good direction for them, the entire project can fall apart; especially when those that are actually in charge of a project are the publishers/network executives. Just look at the "Legend of Korra" and "TMNT: Mutants in Manhattan" games by PlatinumGames. PlatinumGames is a great team of game developers and had made some great games yet when making these two specific games for Activision, things went pretty downhill. I even watched gameplay of "Transformers Devastation" by PlatinumGames and Activision and it looks good but not great; not up to standards of PlatinumGames' other titles. Now yes, PlatinumGames didn't do a good job with these two games and definitely deserve criticism for it but then there's Activision and just look at the history of what Activision has been doing for years now. It's bad. So bad. I may be seen as bias (and I can understand why since that I want to work with PlatinumGames) but I'm still going to put a lot, if not most, of the blame on Activision for those two games. This is what I mean by great team, bad direction. Man of Action are great writers but Cartoon Network is just bad at making reboots and remakes. Teen Titans Go!, the Powerpuff Girls reboot, I heard Wabbit was pretty mediocre, etc. Even Cartoon Network's treatment of the previous Ben 10 shows hints at their bad direction. Just look at what they did to Omniverse when that show's toy sales didn't do well enough. That just goes to show that Cartoon Network has the real say in how the Ben 10 series will turn out to be as and not Man of Action and how bad Cartoon Network's direction is. One major reason why the Ben 10 Original Series, Generator Rex, and the Ben 10/Generator Rex crossover episode did so well in quality was because Man of Action was at least largely in charge of those very shows. That it was them that pretty much called the shots there. That they had enough control to make those shows the way that they want to make it as. Here with this next Ben 10 show, it doesn't look as if they have enough control even when they say they do. That video from Man of Action that was made before Omniverse ended where they discussed plans of working on Ben 10 and expanding on Ben 10,000 more and all of that stuff; the response that I got from one of the main guys from Man of Action about this very page that I made saying "If we only could..."; Man of Action being unable to share much about this next Ben 10 show without getting into trouble from Cartoon Network; Joe Kelly stating that it wasn't MOA's decision to make this Ben 10 show and take this very current route of starting the story all over again but instead it was CN's decision; I'll even throw in the new art design, which doesn't match well with Man of Action's other previous art styles. It doesn't look like Man of Action is really in charge of this new show but instead Cartoon Network is and I already previously mentioned Cartoon Network's bad directing and treatment of most of their shows. Man of Action may be involved with making this show but unless the next Ben 10 show gets a proper direction, that won't matter that much and can negatively affect the new show. Like I said before, you can have some of the best writers, artists, animators, producers, etc but everything can fall apart if you don't have good direction.
Speaking of the lack of information about the new Ben 10 show, one other way that the lack of info could be interpreted is that it's a sign that Cartoon Network doesn't have much faith and/or care in the new Ben 10 show. Something tells me that Man of Action doesn't actually have much faith in the new Ben 10 show either; especially since that they've been focusing more on other projects, such as Camp Midnight and the upcoming Mega Man show and whatsoever. That very viewpoint can also be reinforced by a lot of the negative views that a lot of fans and viewers have been giving towards this new Ben 10 show, which could further explain the lack of info as Cartoon Network might be expecting even more negative responses from it. That's just another way of interpreting the lack of information for the new Ben 10 show though and it might not be correct.
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Honestly I'm not ready for the Ben 10 Reboot to have a crossover, if anything goes towards its second or third possible seasons, I wouldn't mind during then if it was with Steven Universe or some other popular but action-enough series. Just as long as its not a show that's with TTG.
And as for what you said above, CN doesn't care, but I think this is just for licensing, branding, and to do some repairs on the franchise, while starting over. Honestly MOA could've wanted to do this, I mean they're the ones help running the show as Executive Producers. I mean the creator of Powerpuff Girls didn't join their Reboot, nor did the developers of Teen Titans, but if the workers for Ben 10 did, that means there is some care for the show.
The lack of info honestly could be because Ben 10 fans have died down since Omniverse, and the fans still haven't forgiven them for it, and with the design their approaching, they probably wouldn't even wanna bother leaking things out til around premiere time maybe, but who knows, once we actually get something and more hype for this Reboot, maybe then something will arise. I don't know.It's Action Time!
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@Ebomnitrix Like I said, it's one way to interpret everything that's going on right now with the Ben 10 not reboot aka the Ben 10 remake (I'm no longer considering the new Ben 10 show as a reboot but instead as a remake and again, I already explained why on this page). Also, of course Man of Action still wants to make Ben 10 shows and still has a lot of care for the series considering that they created it. It's mostly Cartoon Network that I'm referring to here. Like I said before, if Cartoon Network doesn't give the new Ben 10 show some good and proper direction, then it likely won't matter that much on what Man of Action does to make the show good. Like I said, bad direction can really throw things off for a project regardless of how good the team is.
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@Tactical-Ochoa Makes me wish the staff (writers and animators) of Legend of Korra would do Ben 10, but I'm willing to give it a shot even if it's a remake or not.
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10 Years Of Hero Time!!!!
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@Omni-Triforcer Duncan Rouleau didn't answer the first question. He didn't state whether or not MOA always wanted to make this next Ben 10 show. All he states is that MOA are the Executive Producers and we already know that. He also states that they have big input on the story but nothing else. Not most of the input. Not all of the input. Apparently, just some big input on the story and that's all he states. Not the artwork, not the animation, voice department, direction, etc.
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@Tactical-Ochoa I'm glad they are part of the story, they can finally do the story they wanted for Ben 10.
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@Rexfan1333 They already did the story that they wanted for Ben 10. It was done in the Original Series. Yeah, some changes were made with the Original Series but still, MOA isn't making the story that they always wanted to make for Ben 10 because they already did this story before back when they made the Original Series and MOA still hasn't made the sequel to the Original Series that they wanted to make.
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@Tactical-Ochoa Wow you love to put a negative spin on things don't you. Why can't you just be happy that Man of action is involved with the reboot. Just becuase you say that cartoon network is lying about man of actions input on the reboot doesn't make it true. You have no proof that this is the case at all. i believe man of action they never gave me a reason not to believe them.
10 Years Of Hero Time!!!!
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@Omni-Triforcer I don't care anymore if you find my response to be negative. Either make a counter argument or don't even bother to respond back at all. Also, I didn't say that Cartoon Network lied here with Rouleau's tweet. I'm just stating what's there and what's not there. I'm just stating what his tweet means.
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I will respond how i feel whether its a counter argument or not. Just like how you respond how you feel. Doesn't make me wrong but it doesn't make you wrong either. I'm just saying although thats what you think it doesn't mean you are correct.
10 Years Of Hero Time!!!!
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@Omni-Triforcer And I never said that I'm correct. I never imply that I'm correct or at the very least I try my best to word things in a way to prevent that interpretation, which at times is easier said than done. I hope that I'm wrong with my stance on the Ben 10 remake and I'd be more than happy to state that I was wrong because I want to be wrong about this very show.
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I also see you asked another question to moa since they didnt answer my first question. I was about to do that to Lol.
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@Omni-Triforcer That was you? Huh.
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@Tactical-Ochoa said in Addressing the Ben 10 Reboot (which is actually a remake and not a reboot):
@Omni-Triforcer That was you? Huh.
No thats not me Im so used to asking them questions i forgot that this wasnt my question. Sorry for the confusion.
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@Omni-Triforcer Oh ok. No worries.
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@Tactical-Ochoa Well I mean like they could add more and such, but with CN around we might not see it.
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I split the topic and moved it to Ben 10 reboot section.
http://ben10club.org/topic/121/addressing-the-ben-10-reboot-which-is-actually-a-remake-and-not-a-reboot/3
I am now locking this topic.
