@KineceleranGirl I recall hearing something like that. I guess I wouldn't mind about him being a vigilante or something of the likes as long as him and Ben remain as enemies and not friends. Not only do I think Kevin is far more interesting as a villain, but I think he has the potential to be one of the best and most dangerous and terrifying villains in the franchise. Moments like what you mentioned from the Ken 10 episode I think showcased that. Kevin's powers combined with his sheer obsession towards making Ben suffer is a very dangerous recipe that could really create quite an intense conflict for Ben, Gwen, Ken, etc. to deal with.

@coreofthesun Granted, there were a lot of things that the writers of Alien Force didn't pay much attention to.

I can't be stuffed to repeat what I just said but if you are going to advocate and defend the Bwen ship. Then I'd suggest you all to make a 2nd account with a entirely different nickname so you don't carry any Bwen baggage when you go to the major Ben 10 communities and that you be clean. No amount of Bwen gratification is worth loss missing out on having friends and respect from people. However if you like to talk about Bwen here then I can't stop you. Even if I could you'd just find a different place to talk about it.

Another thing I've noticed in the end ultimate alien Azmuth said to Ben he might give him the master control for the Omnitrix on his 18th birthday which would give access to over a million alien. But future Ben would end up with a mere 10,000 Alien ?

@Tactical-Ochoa Though I never said that there was anything wrong with Ben being different from Peter 😛 , just pointing out their differences.

That is a good point, Ben has always been attention-seeking and cocky but unlike others who could've been stuck in his situation, he keeps that trait with him even when in the tensest of scenarios and to an extent his natural personality acts as a coping mechanism for him when in battle. So yes, he is behaving like that because he's "being Ben" , but inadvertently by seeing his heroism almost as a game at times, the mental side of it doesn't crush him.

They just want to cash in the popularity of the character gotta sell those squid toys.

@coreofthesun I think that number seems about right. It would be nice though to have more people participate on this website though. We still receive more and more new members.

Adding from my original post, I think that Ben as a character is ultimately Khyber's foil. As a hunter Khyber's entire character is revolved around observing his prey or opponents carefully before striking. He wants to find patterns in their behaviour, he wants to learn everything about who they are, and then catch them when they are least expecting it. But Ben's unpredictability and fun loving nature which is so often seen as a flaw may actually work to his benefit and ultimately help him prevail in the end. This combined with him being the wielder of the Omnitrix may make it just as frustrating for Khyber to defeat Ben as it would be for Ben to defeat Khyber (for the reasons I outlined in the first post) which I believe would lead to a really interesting conflict between them despite the lack of personal or malicious intentions from Khyber.

@coreofthesun I always found it stupid how Vilgax tried to tempt Ben with ultimate power...because Ben already has ultimate power. It's in the form of Alien X, the same alien that later in Omniverse recreates an entire destroyed universe.

Ken is cute

@coreofthesun I was thinking the same thing because I can't imagine everything that happened in UA and Omniverse could happen in one year. I haven't watched Omniverse since it ended but based on what I remember, I could see that show taking place over the course of a year in half bringing Ben close to the age of 18.

@npzman I mean I don’t dislike UAF - it was the era which I grew up with first after all, and there were some awesome concepts in it. The idea of the Highbreed was excellent, as were the DNAliens (given that they were innocent humans under mind control rather than your standard beat ‘em up bad guys). I respect Mcduffie’s writing and honestly, as its own series Alien Force (and by extension Ultimate Alien) works really well as a show.

What I will say though is that UAF was not a great *sequel * to the original series. People love to complain about Omniverse’s retcons and plot inconsistencies when they really started all the way back in Alien Force. The Plumbers being changed from a secret organisation dedicated to protecting Earth from aliens into an intergalactic peace force, Kevin being an alien rather than a mutant and most of all the functionality of the Omnitrix being super inconsistent. If the writers had watched the original series properly the sequels would probably be way more watchable.

@Osmo97 Yes he did. He's done an amazing job with all three of my Ben 10 character redesigns. You should check out the rest of his work if you are interested and get the chance. He a great artist that makes some great quality artwork.

Something recently came to mind and that is who I find to be a suitable choice to provide the voice of Ben 10,000/adult Ben Tennyson; especially for the direction for the redesign that I discussed here. That choice is Reuben Langdon, the voice of Dante from Devil May Cry 3 to the recently released Devil May Cry 5. Thinking back to Dante as a character and Langdon's performance of him (most notably his DMC5 performance), I find that Langdon would be a suitable choice to provide the voice of an adult Ben Tennyson. Dante is an incredibly cocky and fun-loving individual and the same can pretty much be said for Ben as well. Cocky and fun-loving while still treating more serious situations with, well, seriousness and focus. Plus, I also find Langdon's DMC5 Dante performance to also sound like a proper match for an adult Ben. If I were to imagine how Ben would sound like as an adult based on the voice that Tara Strong is well known for displaying, I say that Langdon's voice would be a very close match. Feel free to check out Dante in DMC5 and see for yourself if that sort of voice and this very voice actor would indeed be a good choice to voice an adult Ben or not.