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Man of action says hello to the forum. Im talking to them

@xlr8isbest overflow might have a relation to waterhazard and its a story they would to expand in the future.

@admin the live action got put on hold because the producer joel silver left warner brothers and went to universal. But warners brothers owns the property so they had to put the movie on hold.

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@oldtaku_dd said in Why Gwevin failed (or Why Bwen is still so popular):

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Ben and gwen had very odd subtext for cousins when the first series aired back then. People shipped the cousins because of that said subtext back then. Also as many people pointed out during pre production they weren't related and the creators changed that at the last minute because cartoon network thought it was weird to have a unrelated girl travel with an old grandpa and a young boy for so long. It also really dosen't help that the original series creators forgot to remove all the subtext completely and only make slight tweaks then call it "cousin love".

I remember watching the episode benwolf the subtext really showed there and kai felt more like a romantic false lead. If the writers wanted to fix this mess, man of action should have really revised the script and rewrote the script from scratch even if the show was gonna get delayed a bit ether that or the sequal series acknowledges that something might have been there between ben and gwen but have them move on to someone else because its wrong to date family. And put a lot of effort and consistent development towards the non ben and gwen ship.

I saw this show when i was in middle school when i first watched it the concept of a kid turning into a superpowered alien interest me. I thought this superhero show was pretty original since it wasent based on marvel or dc comics. Also while watching the show time to time i noticed the weird subtext between ben and gwen and was freaked out as a kid. I remember going to youtube and saw a lot of people commenting on the subtext and making incest jokes about. What really freak me out was when one promo showed gwen being jealous of ben when he was walking with another girl. For awhile this creeped me out until i found out that ben and gwen weren't suppose to related at first and gwen was switched to be his cousin at the last minute because the creators couldn't find a good reason why a unrelated girl would travel with ben and his grandpa for so long and they forgot to remove all that subtext after the switch was made. Now my opinions soften as time went on and i ship it even if other ships became canon.

Im not much of a fan of the sequel series it had to much retcons and ben and gwen felt occ in alien force and ultimate alien. I only watched a few episodes of alien force and quit because thats when it really lost my interest.

As for the new reboot i feel like its avarage at best. I wished it was a much better reboot that dosen't follow the recent cartoon trend these days.

I got myself the new omnitrix and a ben Tennyson figure. I wished i got the old ones from back then but now there pretty expensive on ebay.

I asked them about On whether if ben will grow up they said they prefer ben being ten forever so it can appeal and relate towards kids. Then When i told them about if they can consider the squeals to be canon they said in a way it is but at the same it could be alternate universe thing. When i asked one of creators about how poorly handled gwens character was handled in the squeal series he told me he was also disappointed about how too girly she is and too much of a damsel in distress she is. In the original series they always intended They wanted to make grandpa less generic by having him be a secret plummer and same goes with gwen being not just a love interest and damsel. They did give other sequel writers approval even if they weren't completely involved in the sequel series.

Theres one thing they said that came off as controversial when i asked this other question. It was about the bwen ship apparently when i asked about gwen originality being a unrelated classmate. Steven the creator replied saying the creators never intended ben and gwen to be unrelated classmates. And duncan when later meeting him told me the same thing but also told me that they were suppose to be brother and sister in the original pitch but cartoon network scrapped that idea because they didn't want a too close familial relationship so man of action changed them to cousins. This kinda confused me because every single source i found says that man of action originally intended ben and gwen to be unrelated classmates. I even remember watching a old ben 10 dvd commentary interview stating that gwen was suppose to be a classmate. I told them about how every single source i find states this. They told me that its nothing but mis information that fans spread. And duncan is aware of the weird porn art with ben and gwen they even had fans coming up to them admitting they wished ben and gwen would have gotten together and thought not all interactions they had came off as familial.

They did mention that it took 2 longs years to develop the show so lot of the ideas could have changed. And just because they were consulting the original show, they wren't show runners since they have a habit of working for a show for only a year before moving on to other shows.

I also got a art sketch of ben and gwen and signing from both creators.
Whats your take on this?

@tactical-ochoa I am going back tomorrow. I might ask them again about the questions. If i do get a recording i might post it on youtube.

I don't think ben and gwen is weird I could understand why , Like many sources and ben 10 trivia that aired back then said ben and gwen weren't related at first. The left over subtext after changing gwen into bens cousin made the pairing taboo and then made uncomfortable to ship to a lot of people.

Its like what happened in star wars with luke and leia they also weren't related until the last film. Luke and leia was a pretty popular ship back then until the sister reveal happened. thats what made the pairing icky and awkward.

It not like writers always intended incest they just made poor writing choice sometimes that leads into incest vibes.

I don't mind the ship since its fiction But i wished they handled things better maybe people wouldn't have a huge icky vibes towards it.

Yeah i do find it odd they said that the subtext between ben and gwen was never there in the canon. I even mention to them that in a old commentary ben 10 dvd video they state that gwen was not related at first hence the weird tension between them. But they said none of that is true same goes for the whole ben 10 pilot episode existing. They said ben 10 never had any romance since kids wouldn't interested in it it was more about family action and adventure. If thats the case then why have gwen have subtle affection for ben here and there and have one episode were ben has a crush on kai?

if any of you guys buy the first ben 10 dvd volume one it has that commentary of episode 1 were they mention gwen not being related.

@ben-10-fan I asked them if they are going to make a adult ben 10 on Netflix they said maybe if the recent cartoons trends get serious and dark again there more focused on the reboot. Steven would love to make more stories about ben 100000.