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Ben 10 Alien X-Tinction Review By D.C. Network

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  • I think that it’s a cool way to end the reboot but there’s a lot of reliance on fanservice especially with regards to showing OG, AF, UA and OV Ben when they are all the same person.

  • I think that it’s a cool way to end the reboot but there’s a lot of reliance on fanservice especially with regards to showing OG, AF, UA and OV Ben when they are all the same person.

    @coreofthesun That's what it felt like to me as well. Almost like a desperate attempt at fanservice. Like, "Oh look, we have Ben 10,000. We have Generator Rex. We have every iteration of Ben Prime plus Gwen 10. Isn't that cool. Isn't that great. Please watch our show." That's the feeling that I'm getting here.

  • @coreofthesun That's what it felt like to me as well. Almost like a desperate attempt at fanservice. Like, "Oh look, we have Ben 10,000. We have Generator Rex. We have every iteration of Ben Prime plus Gwen 10. Isn't that cool. Isn't that great. Please watch our show." That's the feeling that I'm getting here.

    @Tactical-Ochoa Exactly. I mean don't get me wrong it's hype that these characters are here but as you said, it feels more there to get more fans of the original continuity watching. The specials themselves seem to be average in terms of story as mentioned by @cooljay7 with Ben 10,010 probably being the only one which I'd deem solid in terms of plot.

  • @Tactical-Ochoa Exactly. I mean don't get me wrong it's hype that these characters are here but as you said, it feels more there to get more fans of the original continuity watching. The specials themselves seem to be average in terms of story as mentioned by @cooljay7 with Ben 10,010 probably being the only one which I'd deem solid in terms of plot.

    @coreofthesun I think Ben 10,010 was better than the rest because it focused less on reboot Ben and more on Ben 10k. I noticed in that special the tone was much more serious and they weren't trying to crack jokes at every opportunity. Honestly, it was definitely the best thing to come out of the reboot in my opinion.

  • @coreofthesun I think Ben 10,010 was better than the rest because it focused less on reboot Ben and more on Ben 10k. I noticed in that special the tone was much more serious and they weren't trying to crack jokes at every opportunity. Honestly, it was definitely the best thing to come out of the reboot in my opinion.

    @cooljay7 I'll probably give it and Alien-Xtinction a watch. Granted, from what I've looked into with Ben 10,000 in that special, I'm not really a fan of that version of him. Yes, I know that there are such a plethora of different versions of Ben but even then, I just don't see Ben as someone who would give up on being a hero no matter how much trauma he goes through. I prefer the Original Series version of Ben 10,000 more...with the exception of his design though.

  • Holy s**t, I’ve just watched Alien X-tinction in full and...reboot Max knows about the Plumbers? When AF Ben turns up and starts talking about the Plumbers casually, reboot Max starts silently gesturing at him to keep quiet.

    Well that was out of the blue, but while I guess that it does set up a sequel a bit more I can’t believe that this version of Max never even gave an indication of being a Plumber or knowing about them after all that Ben has been through - I thought that this version was more of an eccentric inventor rather than a member of a secret organisation.

  • Holy s**t, I’ve just watched Alien X-tinction in full and...reboot Max knows about the Plumbers? When AF Ben turns up and starts talking about the Plumbers casually, reboot Max starts silently gesturing at him to keep quiet.

    Well that was out of the blue, but while I guess that it does set up a sequel a bit more I can’t believe that this version of Max never even gave an indication of being a Plumber or knowing about them after all that Ben has been through - I thought that this version was more of an eccentric inventor rather than a member of a secret organisation.

    @coreofthesun After 4 seasons and three specials for a 5th season, they FINALLY hinted at Max being a Plumber.

    Honestly, I don't even see the reboot version of Max being a Plumber either. He was just so lame and bland and all that stuff that it felt like him being a Plumber wouldn't fit.

  • @coreofthesun After 4 seasons and three specials for a 5th season, they FINALLY hinted at Max being a Plumber.

    Honestly, I don't even see the reboot version of Max being a Plumber either. He was just so lame and bland and all that stuff that it felt like him being a Plumber wouldn't fit.

    @Tactical-Ochoa Yeah I remember in the first season he was so clueless as to what was going on. I haven't watched any of the later season besides these specials but I'm assuming it's the same throughout.

  • @Tactical-Ochoa Yeah I remember in the first season he was so clueless as to what was going on. I haven't watched any of the later season besides these specials but I'm assuming it's the same throughout.

    @cooljay7 I believe I got up to mid season 3 before I gave up on the reboot show. From what I recall, there was barely anything or nothing that hinted that Max was a Plumber. And yeah, I also don't like this version of Max. He wasn't interesting. He felt so bland. Also, David Kaye did ok as Max but it just doesn't hold a candle to Paul Eiding.

  • @cooljay7 I believe I got up to mid season 3 before I gave up on the reboot show. From what I recall, there was barely anything or nothing that hinted that Max was a Plumber. And yeah, I also don't like this version of Max. He wasn't interesting. He felt so bland. Also, David Kaye did ok as Max but it just doesn't hold a candle to Paul Eiding.

    @Tactical-Ochoa Yeah reboot Max is very boring.

  • My theory is that this version of Max wasn't a Plumber himself, but someone who was familiar with the organisation. For me he's way too goofy and irresponsible (well at least compared with original Max) to actually be a Plumber.

    Still though, even if he only knew about them surely he would've tried to contact them when larger threats like Vilgax started to emerge in the reboot universe. Or at the least he could've told Ben and Gwen about them. Again, this detail seems more for fanservice than actual plot consistency.

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    Is there any sign of Cartoon Network having a Renaissance of some sorts with regards to the types of shows which they start showing? Because it doesn't look that way at the moment with Teen Titans Go dominating the schedule, and it looks like the "comedy" format of shows is what generates the most money for CN and looks like that's what it will be like going forward, with the reboot sequel likely to follow suit. The reboot isn't the worst show on Cartoon Network and I don't wish to be a jerk and upset the people who enjoy it. I just believe that not only the long-time fans, but the kids too deserve better - heck, my little 9 year old brother think that the reboot "tries too hard to be funny and ends up being stupid" . Although his favourite series is Omniverse, he finds episodes of the original 2006 series way more enjoyable to watch than the reboot - and this is all without me suggesting to him at all that the reboot is not as good as the OS. Children aren't as stupid as CN seem to think and if they do make any kind of continuation I just hope that they treat their viewers with respect and allow the writers as much freedom as possible. I was having a discussion with someone on Reddit as to what would happen if they started showing Original Series reruns after the reboot ends, to which they said that the more detailed art style alone (and how it is different from most CN art styles nowadays) may catch the attention of kids and the story and charm of the original would do the rest. I've lurked around forums like this for a while so am familiar with @Tactical-Ochoa 's idea to make a new sequel to the original series exploring an alternate AF timeline and attempting to make the continuity more streamlined and improve on where the sequels slipped up (I believe that Alien Force, Ultimate Alien and Omniverse were all good shows in themselves but not good sequels). That could've really worked back in 2016 but I think that with the 2016 reboot wiping the slate clean it may confuse viewers as to which shows belong to which timelines. Reboots are fine since they give writers another shot at doing a show right. I'm sure that when Ben 10 started the creators didn't think of all their ideas from the beginning, and obviously with the retcons the original timeline became a bit messy. A Ben 10 reboot could've been the chance to fix those issues and create a smooth timeline by taking the best aspects from across the franchise and merging them into one. An example of a good reboot is one of my favourite comic series: "Ultimate Spider-Man" by Brian Michael Bendis (which I've mentioned here before - I am quite a big Spider-Man fan as well as a Ben 10 fan lol). Sure the comic re-interpreted a few characters and had a more grounded story, but in the end it kept true to the core themes of what makes Spider-Man such a good character which is why while not perfect, it was a great reimagining of the character. But unfortunately a lot of reboots these days seem to be more inclined to advertising toys and merch by using the name of the franchise to attract interest, and I hope that changes /wall of text over.
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    @cooljay7 Sounds like a fanboy of the show or a Cartoon Network shill or whatever. I'm guessing that D.C. Network removed the comments because, as you said, the commenter spammed them out.
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