State of Cartoon Network



  • @Tactical-Ochoa well it probably could be true I was watching it with my niece the other day and some of the episodes didn't really sit right with me and I've sort of noticed this with some other cartoon network shows that start off good then just rapidly drop in quality as the series progresses



  • I think it has. It has a lot of filler episodes that make no sense and then in other episodes it has filler for the first 10 minutes of the episode and 1 minute of plot development.



  • @cooljay7 @VJ-Philogene Regardless of everything that's happening with these current shows, I think that overall shows, such as Adventure Time, Steven Universe, etc, are suffering from seasonal rot. Even Ben 10 is going through this (especially with Omniverse, in my opinion; 8 seasons was too long for Omniverse alone to have). When a series lasts for so many seasons and ideas and a proper direction are starting to run dry, a series goes through seasonal rot where it just progressively and gradually gets worse and its quality diminishes. The original PPG show suffered from this after Craig McCracken left. The Fairly Odd Parents and Spongebob Squarepants are going through seasonal rot. Family Guy and The Simpsons are dealing with this. Any show that runs for too long can suffer through this. You can only run a show for so long before you just end up running out of ideas and/or you no longer can provide a proper and strong direction for it. In cases like this, it's usually best to just end the show instead of just struggling to keep it afloat. Gravity Falls only lasted for two seasons but that was what the creator of the show wanted. Craig McCracken didn't want to continue the original PPG show because he thought that it lasted long enough and that it wasn't necessary to continue the series onwards. It's a struggle for creators to pull this off though because networks want the shows to continue so that they could keep earning profits off those very shows. Knowing that Gravity Falls would only last two seasons (20 episodes each), Disney opted to release new episodes as slowly as they possibly can just so the show could last for a very unnecessary almost 4 years. Overall, seasonal rot can really take a toll on any show that lasts for so long.


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    @Tactical-Ochoa said in State of Cartoon Network:

    @cooljay7 @VJ-Philogene Regardless of everything that's happening with these current shows, I think that overall shows, such as Adventure Time, Steven Universe, etc, are suffering from seasonal rot. Even Ben 10 is going through this (especially with Omniverse, in my opinion; 8 seasons was too long for Omniverse alone to have). When a series lasts for so many seasons and ideas and a proper direction are starting to run dry, a series goes through seasonal rot where it just progressively and gradually gets worse and its quality diminishes. The original PPG show suffered from this after Craig McCracken left. The Fairly Odd Parents and Spongebob Squarepants are going through seasonal rot. Family Guy and The Simpsons are dealing with this. Any show that runs for too long can suffer through this. You can only run a show for so long before you just end up running out of ideas and/or you no longer can provide a proper and strong direction for it. In cases like this, it's usually best to just end the show instead of just struggling to keep it afloat. Gravity Falls only lasted for two seasons but that was what the creator of the show wanted. Craig McCracken didn't want to continue the original PPG show because he thought that it lasted long enough and that it wasn't necessary to continue the series onwards. It's a struggle for creators to pull this off though because networks want the shows to continue so that they could keep earning profits off those very shows. Knowing that Gravity Falls would only last two seasons (20 episodes each), Disney opted to release new episodes as slowly as they possibly can just so the show could last for a very unnecessary almost 4 years. Overall, seasonal rot can really take a toll on any show that lasts for so long.

    technically each season only consisted of 10 episodes and if you look at a normal amount of episodes a season usually has for a tv its 20 so technically omniverse had around 4 seasons which is not to long when you think about it.



  • I came across this podcast by the Nerdist Podcast thanks to shadows59 from FanFiction.net. This is a recent podcast that was posted back in August 2016. It features voice actor Billy West from Futurama on it. What really caught my attention and got me interested was that Billy West actually rants about the way that cartoons are nowadays especially on Cartoon Network (I don't remember if he mentions Cartoon Network but considering what he's describing and ranting about, I'd say that he's referring to CN). If anyone wants to check this podcast out, here's the link to it. I don't remember exactly when in the podcast he makes this rant but it is in the podcast.

    http://nerdist.com/nerdist-podcast-billy-west-3/


  • Bwen fans

    there is a item I miss on cartoonetwork it is called the cartoonetwork groovies here is one of them

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ip1usqfHFOc



  • Update: Adventure Time to end with Season 9 in 2018.



  • @cooljay7 Yeah, it's been trending like crazy.



  • And Yeah Cartoon Network hits the 1 millions Subscribers
    https://youtu.be/UhlKvjNMFx8



  • @Ben-10-Fan Good for them. Now if only Cartoon Network can stop BSing their fans and viewers and actually display a lot more care and effort into making good cartoon shows. Also, nowadays, I don't find getting 1 million subscribers on YouTube to be as rewarding anymore considering just how often getting that achievement is. Cartoon Network got 1 million subscribers and so did many many many many many many many many many many other channels on YouTube. So yeah, that's not as big of an achievement anymore.







  • Cartoon Network should learn a thing or two from this video.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtBUU7XZbh4&feature=youtu.be&a


  • Ben 10 Fans

    @Tactical-Ochoa
    See this is why if I'm going to make a cartoon show, especially if its comedy, I'm just going to making fun of the trenders rather than following them, but even then its something I would barely do because I would like to be fresh and original and actually be the one to create the "meme" rather than follow it. And if I'm going to make fun of a modern trend, a good example would be the Pidgeot hair style, questioning why almost every person has that now with a beard shadow or I'll just make fun of something else. I mean in kids cartoons you need something that's not the same show repeated over and over again, especially with the art style we see on CN nowadays, now we actually need something different so it can separate one show from another, and the only ones I'm seeing doing that right now are Steven Universe (while other shows are trying to copy it), and Mighty Magiswords, even the terrible Teen Titans Go... (in terms of animation and how it first started anyway, ignoring Season 2 and after that)



  • Update: Cartoon Network has now lost the Pokémon anime to Disney XD.


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    @cooljay7 said in State of Cartoon Network:

    Update: Cartoon Network has now lost the Pokémon anime to Disney XD.

    Great! The Pokemon Anime has gotten really good this past season im glad its not in the hands of CN anymore



  • @Omni-Triforcer kinda wish someone will take Ben 10 from them, but I don't see it happening.



  • Why Do Reboots Keep Sucking!?
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJgPOijxByU



  • RegularCapital's response on why DC animated shows air on Cartoon Network:

    http://www.toonzone.net/forums/threads/justice-league-action-news-discussion-thread-part-2-spoilers.5554842/page-21

    Time Warner is a complex company, Turner (Cartoon Network) is semi-autonomous with its own management and is financially independent to Warner Bros, however CN gets a slightly better deal compared to everyone else outside the Time Warner group and naturally get first dibs on anything they produce animation-wise. It's not much of a bad deal, Warner Bros. gets money for animation production and Turner keeps the ad revenue. If the CW wants to air Adventure Time, Warner Bros (and CBS) would have to pay Turner, it works both ways.

    I've recorded a short promo of Justice League Action (directly from my cable box) which is due to premiere on Cartoon Network UK this Saturday, I aim to record the longer one this week.

    Makes me think, could this replace Pokemon on Saturday Mornings?



  • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JGjC7RZ0Hk

    PIEGUYRULZ's Rant on Cartoon Network's Shady Business Practices.