The Ben 10 Series
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@chronosapien234 Whoa. What's with the spelling? Anyways, I know what the purpose was but the way it was done doesn't make sense. It's a major plot hole. A question that can't be answered. This is the type of stuff that people hate in shows, movies, video games, etc. Stuff like this is cluttered all over the Ben 10 sequels. So much that doesn't make sense. So much that is never explained. So many questions that remained unanswered. So much that was done wrong. All of this was the result of Cartoon Network implementing poor and lazy writing, structuring, and designing of the sequels. Stuff such as how the Chronosapien Time Bomb was used are done so terrible and in a way that doesn't even make any sense at all is why the Ben 10 sequels are just overall really terrible shows.
Things have to make sense. They have to be explained in a way that it does make sense, is very much understandable, and works for the Ben 10 series. No matter how fictional and ridiculous it is, it has to make sense. It has to work. It has to be see in a way that viewers would understand how and why it happened the way it happened. You have to fulfill the who, what, when, where, why, and how. Why do you think so many people hate Omniverse so much? Because it's examples like the time bomb that shows how stupid and terrible that show is and how lazy and stupid Cartoon Network is and Cartoon Network is being stupid and lazy with the reboot as well.
It has to make sense and has to be explained. Simple as that.
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I was trying to sound like clockwork. and the show is about a kid who finds a watch in space that turns him into aliens. Explain that
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@chronosapien234 Ok. Clockwork. Now I see.
Well, for Ben getting the Omnitrix, lets take a look at who, what, when, where, why, how.
Who: Who finds the Omnitrix? Ben Tennyson.
What: What is the Omnitrix? An alien watch that contains the DNA samples of over a million different alien species with the capability to transform the wielder into any alien that the wielder chooses. Created by Azmuth to help promote peace in the Universe through allowing better communication with the various different alien species.
When: When does Ben find the Omnitrix? On the first night of his Summer Vacation Road Trip.
Where: Where does Ben find the Omnitrix? At Yosemite Park in California, where the pod containing the Omnitrix lands at.
Why: Why does Ben find and have the Omnitrix? The Omnitrix was meant to be sent to Ben's grandfather, Max, to protect it. Ben happens to come across it and the Omnitrix latches onto his arm because Ben's DNA is a close match to Max's DNA. Because the Omnitrix latched itself onto his arm, Ben can't take it off. However, he decides to keep it and to use the Omnitrix to be a hero.
How: How did Ben find and end up with the Omnitrix? Xylene was transporting it when Vilgax attacks her ship. Xylene is forced to launch the Omnitrix away in a pod and sent it to Max for, again, protection. The Omnitrix tracks Max and ends up landing near Ben. Ben approaches the pod, finds the Omnitrix, and it latches itself onto his arm as explained in the why.
As for the rest of the Original Series, Ben learns what it takes to be a true hero while also trying to figure out the origins and true purpose of the Omnitrix.
There we go. everything is explained in a way that makes sense, is understandable, and works for the series.
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Still... I think that it would be really weird if you explained it to some random person who had never herd of it.
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@chronosapien234 That's Ben 10 for you. It's supposed to be weird. To be bizarre. That is the style that Man of Action is best at. Creating realistic and bizarre worlds. That's a major reason why the Original Series is considered the best show in the Ben 10 series and still is and that's where the sequels failed the most at. It did something that not many cartoon shows have attempted and succeeded in. Being a weird show that it is is what made it so unique and original. That's what people like and want to see. A cartoon show that does something unique.
So yeah, of course it's going to sound weird to those who haven't watch Ben 10 but it's also going to get people interested in watching it. Shows like Ben 10 are stuff that most people want to see. Something that is unique and original, even though it's inspired and based off of Dial H for Hero. It'll sound weird to people that haven't watched Ben 10 but it gets them interested in watching it because it's unique and does something new.
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I thought the thing that made omniverse special is the fact that we see ben when he was 5 1/2, 11, 16, AND 30
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@chronosapien234 Special? Omniverse was a generic and typical comedic cartoon show. It didn't do much that was new. CN once again made so many changes to Ben 10 that Omniverse is seen as the most hated and even the worse in the Ben 10 series. The sequels are a prime example of why Cartoon Network shouldn't be involved in making this reboot. Cartoon Network is being lazy and stupid here. They aren't listening to their audience, thinking that Cartoon Network is right and the CN audience is wrong. That's why on my other topic page I've been saying that Cartoon Network needs to back off and let Man of Action make the Ben 10 show that they want to make. I bet you anything that Man of Action doesn't even want to make this reboot. It's better to just let Man of Action make a Ben 10 show their way and to not reboot the Original Series but to instead reboot the sequels.
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@chronosapien234 So,you're asking me what my favorite alien is. Hmm? I'm not entirely sure. I don't even know if I do have a favorite alien. I know that my favorite set of aliens are the Original Series ones. They still look unique, awesome, and truly alien to this day. I really like Rath, though. John DiMaggio did a great job with him and Rath is just really freakin funny to watch. While a lot of the aliens in the sequels were really generic, they do have some really cool abilities. The only Ultimate Form that I liked in Ultimate Alien was Ultimate Echo Echo. Feedback is pretty cool. Other than that, I don't really have a favorite alien. Again, my most favorite set of aliens were the Original Series ones.
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I liked the part in omniverse when rath FINALLY GOT SOME PANTS!!!
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@chronosapien234 Eh, that was ok. I really didn't like the luchadore (I don't know if I spelled that right) outfit but it does fit Rath's wrestling fighting style.
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Plus he had a heatbast mace
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@chronosapien234 You know what, I forgot to follow up on Zombozo. Here's the thing about Zombozo. I believe that he wasn't supposed to be like how he was in Omniverse. He's not supposed to be some zombie clown that feeds off of fear just to sustain himself and have some strange craving for brains. This was another change that Cartoon Network did that only created more problems than improvements. In the Original Series, Zombozo was feeding off of people's positive energy and souls because he desired to do so. He desired the power and energy that it gave him. He desired it so much that I can even say that it's pretty much or kinda an addiction. He craves for all that positive energy. He gets a rush from it. It makes him feel powerful. It actually makes him powerful. That's what made Zombozo such a great villain in the Original Series and why he lacks that greatness in the sequels. Zombozo is a creepy, scary, and sadistic clown that feeds off of people's positive energy and souls because he craves and desires the feeling and power that it gave him. Not because he wants to sustain himself and avoid becoming weak. It's because he wants power and he wants the rush of all that positive energy that he collects from people. That is what made Zombozo a great, and very much indeed creepy and scary, villain in the Original Series, even though it was just one episode. That is why he lacked quite much in the sequels. He was great in the Original Series because Man of Action designed him. He grew to becoming terrible in the sequels because Cartoon Network changed him almost completely.
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@Tactical-Ochoa you do make a good point. Although, you do realize that the circus freaks were important parts of zombozo's plans, and omniverse brought them back when ultimate alien ignored them completely. so they actually used the same episode plot in a different perspective.
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@chronosapien234 Yes, true. The Circus Freaks were important with his plan. However, that's just because they're villainous henchmen characters. Even without Zombozo, the Circus Freaks still end up temporarily as the henchmen to another villain. You know, Ghostfreak. Pretty much almost every time we've seen the Circus Freaks, they are serving somebody. Mostly Zombozo. They're just villainous henchmen characters. They helped but they're not really all that important. In fact, I believe that there pretty much wouldn't be a difference at all if they aren't around. Why? Because, again, they're henchmen. They're also basic thugs, too. The Circus Freaks are not that important.
Also, this is about Zombozo as a character and villain. What makes Zombozo who he is. Why he is like that. How he executes his plans. What makes Zombozo as Zombozo and he doesn't need the Circus Freaks for that.
That is another out of the many problems with Omniverse and even the other sequels. The Original Series was able to do things that not many cartoon shows ever did. The Original Series did something new. The sequels were generic and typical cartoon shows. They barely did anything new if nothing new at all. That episode in Omniverse with Zombozo turning everyone in Bellwood into zombie clowns. If it was a nod to the Original Series, it failed at trying to delivery and do something unique and impressive. No instead, it ended up being another terrible episode due to Ben regaining his fear of clowns and one major plot hole that really ruined that episode, let alone the sheer cartoonish stupidity of it. Does nobody remember that Zombozo and the Circus Freaks are villains? Does nobody remember what they've done in the past? Oh, Ben regained his fear of clowns, huh? Thanks for making Ben conquering his fears in the Original Series pointless now, Cartoon Network.
As for the plot hole, ask yourself this question? Those toy teeth that turn people into zombie clowns. Yeah, how is it that those teeth can bite through Plumber armor and hazmat suits let alone BASIC CLOTHING? They're plastic toy teeth. Is Plumber armor really that terrible and not that protective? I thought Stormtrooper armor was bad enough. Plumber armor is even worse. That one plot hole alone makes that entire episode freakin stupid and terrible. It shows how poor and lazy the writing, structuring, and designing of the sequels are. I know it's a cartoon show but again, it needs to make sense and needs to be understandable enough to work.
