28 Dec 2016, 17:18
@Tactical-Ochoa I honestly don't want to get in this kind of argument again, can we just wait until the series get more episodes? Everyone has different opinions on this show and I really just don't want another argument.
Addressing the Ben 10 Reboot Part 3: Show/Episode Discussions
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@Nikita--Kleutin wow looks nice I hopethis means that they are finally gonna take this reboot seriously
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@JrPhilgene Hope to god they don't ruin Vilgax, make him terrifying CN, don't you dare hold back!!
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@Rexfan1333 said in Addressing the Ben 10 Reboot Part 3: Show/Episode Discussions:
@JrPhilgene Hope to god they don't ruin Vilgax, make him terrifying CN, don't you dare hold back!!
This could be the reboots one chance to make a serious villian and make ben actually seem like a hero. So far ben doesn't seem like much of a hero
10 Years Of Hero Time!!!!
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@Omni-Triforcer He still saves lives like a hero should, but I think the reboot is trying to have you relate to Ben and the fact he's only 10 years old, pretty much any kid would do stupid stuff with something like the Omnitrix. Possiblely he only sees the Omnitrix as a toy and nothing else at the moment, but when he realizes the true purpose of the Omnitrix and meeting Vilgax for the first time he will take it more seriously.
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@Rexfan1333 The Original Series already made Ben a relatable character. And Gwen. And Max. And even Kevin. Charmcaster. Etc.
@Nikita-Kleutin Vilgax robots? I thought that was SixSix, SevenSeven, and EightEight. Also, where did you find these?
@JrPhilgene Maybe for the second season they will take the reboot more seriously, if the show does get renewed for a second season. They already made the first season. The episodes are already done in production so I don't really see any improvements being made to the second half of the first season. Just more of the same.
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@Tactical-Ochoa Yeah, but the reboot just shows that he is as relatable in the show, he's still reckless and impulsive like the original as well as heroic, but he isn't perfect either. He makes a lot of mistakes and does what it takes to fix them. People think this Ben is dumber, but feels the same, I understand people on Max and Gwen, but I feel they can be realistic.
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@Rexfan1333 both the oringinal and reboot ben are relatable just to different people both are serious when the need to be and silly when they need to be except reboot ben is alot less seriojs than the original
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@JrPhilgene I honestly think they didn't change Ben at all, yeah he's alot goofy and silly (which I honestly don't mind at all) compared to the other incarnation of the character, but not much has changed.
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@Rexfan1333 Making Ben more goofy, impulsive, and immature than he was in the Original Series is a change to his character so yeah, they did change him. He's still Ben. They just took the more impulsive and comedic side of him and cranked it up too much. It doesn't help that Gwen and Max don't step in to keep Ben in check either. Ben isn't as smart as he was in the Original Series either considering that more often he's the one that ended up causing a lot of the trouble that he had to resolve. It's not much of a change but it is a change to his character and a significant change to him as well. One that I, and many others, find to make him less likable and relatable. I mean like christ, he's 10-years-old yet Ben really does act like he's 5. I don't recall acting like that when I was 10 myself and I don't see a lot of 10-year-olds act like that either. It doesn't help that he doesn't go through enough character development either. 20 episodes into the first season and the main characters are still in the same position that they were in when the first episode came out. They haven't changed and improved as characters. That's what also makes Ben and the other characters less relatable and likable as well.
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@Tactical-Ochoa I honestly don't want to get in this kind of argument again, can we just wait until the series get more episodes? Everyone has different opinions on this show and I really just don't want another argument.
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@Rexfan1333 Nope. This is a discussion page and is thus a place to have arguments and discussions.
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@Tactical-Ochoa Well, I'm honestly just too depressed about everyone hating this show (it feels like this when every Ben 10 show comes on and I'm just tired of it), all this hate towards this show just makes me really upset and I really don't want to talk about this anymore.
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@Rexfan1333 You're too depressed about everyone hating on the Ben 10 reboot? I'm disappointed about the Ben 10 reboot and I don't like that I have to criticize it so much. I'm sick and tired of how divisive the Star Wars fanbase is. I'm sick and tired of Cartoon Network's bullshit. I'm sick and tired of Activision's bullshit. I'm still pissed to this day that Konami cancelled Silent Hills. That was one of the games that I was most excited about. I'm sick and tired of Social Justice Warriors screwing everything up for everyone else. Just yesterday, Carrie Fisher (Princess Leia) passed away from a heart attack. There's a lot of things that I, and many others, are so upset about with this world and yet, depending on the circumstances, I either try to do something about it or I just suck it up and deal with it. I accept this crap and move on to more important things.
If people hating a show makes you too depressed, then you're way too attached to Ben 10 or something of the likes. I'm not going to stop and/or change something just because it makes one person feel depressed. This website isn't some safe space. It's a place that anyone can participate in and freely share their opinions, views, criticisms, etc in regards to Ben 10 and Cartoon Network. If you don't want to get into an argument, then stop participating in it. If people criticizing the Ben 10 reboot makes you depressed, take a break from Ben 10 and go do some other stuff to help cheer you up. I just got Watch Dogs 2 for Christmas and I'm having a lot of fun with it. My brother also got me the first season of Ash vs Evil Dead. It's a great show. A week or two ago, I got back from watching Star Wars: Rogue One with my step-dad. We had a blast watching it. If you're getting so depressed about the hate and criticism that the Ben 10 reboot is receiving, then shift your focus to other things. You being depressed and upset is not my and anyone else's problem. That's your problem and you can chose to fix it. Other than that, me and anyone else on here is free to criticize the Ben 10 reboot and that's what we're going to do. You don't like it, suck it up and deal with it. Yes, everyone has different opinions which is why they are free to express them here, regardless as to whether or not you and/or I agree with them.
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@Tactical-Ochoa I understand people having opinions and that there are other things out there, but when you see something you care so much about getting so much hate, it will make you upset and depressed, seeing your favorite characters being used in porn and other horrible things and such, it's really hard to ignore all of that, but that's the internet. Even though I see this reboot as something nice and not terrible like everyone else. I'm fine if you keep voting me down, it's just how I feel about everything and just wish that people would treat these characters with respect and all this disturbing crap I keep seeing with Ben and Gwen just makes me want to vomit. I honestly okay with everyones opinion on it, but seeing something that you love get treated this way can be too much and makes me hate the internet.
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@Rexfan1333 That's your problem. Like I said, suck it up and deal with it. Keep letting it be a problem to you, it's going to tear you apart. People hate the Ben 10 reboot. Deal with it. People make Ben 10 porn. So what. People make porn of everything. That's the internet for you. Deal with it and move on. That is one of the best things that you can do at least for now. That's another thing that I'm sick and tired of. Having to suggest to you to just deal with it and move on. So yeah, deal with it and move on.
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@Tactical-Ochoa That's the hard part, I'm a artist and I care about these characters like real people which I do to every character I see (sad to see most of the fandom don't seem to feel that way), I understand people hate the reboot, so you don't have to keep telling to suck it up. I want to see this series get the love and respect it deserves in the future and I hope it will one day because I'm sick of this and want to see Ben 10 give kids as well as fans good memories. Honestly you don't seem to understand how I feel at all, but that's okay.
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@Rexfan1333 Buddy, I'm aspiring to be a Video Game Designer. I understand a lot of things that you understand. Granted though, I don't see the characters like real people. I see them as a part of art.
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@Tactical-Ochoa That's a good goal and I hope you become one some day (I really like your ideas btw), I see them as art as well, but still even people can inspire great art. If I created Ben 10 it will be more about the characters than the toys honestly. I honestly want to work in animation (storyboard or art direction), it would be amazing to work on something like Ben 10 as well as creating my own heroes.
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about this image this might be fake I'm not 100% sure that it's true
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this image I pulled off a very good friend will clarify where he got it and throw you a link